The Problem With Terrorists

Back in October, members of the Presbyterian Church USA meet with members of that oh so reasonable group of murderers known as Hizbollah. The PCUSA has been one of the more vocal Christian groups urging divestment from Israel. I wonder if their minds will be changed after the Hizbullah's Al-Manar TV Symposium was held on November 29 at the Lebanese Government University.

Some of the topics discussed:

Mediator: "The Arab regimes have all accepted the establishing of a Palestinian state on the territories of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. In other words, the 1967 borders only. They believe that the reality and the balance of power do not allow more than that at this stage. Do you support this 'realism,' or do you adhere to what has come to be known as the historical, original Palestine? Let us... Let us... Go ahead."

Student 1: "My name is Hisham Sham'as, and I study political science. I just want to say everyone is talking about..."

Mediator: "Please address the question."

Hisham Sham'as: "The state shouldn't be only within the 1976 borders... Or rather, 1967... Israel must be wiped out."

Mediator: "You mean, reviving the motto of erasing Israel from the map."

Hisham Sham'as: "Israel should be completely wiped out, so the Palestinians will have a country to return to."

Mediator: "If someone tells you this motto is unrealistic, how would you respond?"

Hisham Sham'as: "There is no such thing as unrealistic. Just as Israel... Just like Hitler fought the Jews - We are a great Islamic nation of Jihad, and we too should fight the Jews and burn them." MEMRI

Perhaps these people and Iran's president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad can say such outrageous things because of the long history of Arabs with Nazism and Hitler. Take the case of Haj Amin Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem:
Haj Amin had given in to his hatreds early. He was charged with incitement in the pogrom that erupted in Jerusalem in April 1920, and he became a fugitive from justice, hiding in Transjordan. Ironically, he was brought back by a British Jew, Herbert Samuel, the British high commissioner for Palestine, who made him mufti. The mufti'’s machinations helped ignite the notorious killings of 1929, when religious Jews were driven from Hebron, where Jews had lived for centuries.The mufti lost his post following the riots of 1936, whereupon he went to Lebanon and then to Iraq, to maneuver, abortively, against the British. It was from there that he fled to Berlin and into the arms of Hitler.

In the 1930's people did nothing while Germany was applying special laws against Jews and denying them their rights. Nothing was done when the concentration camps that killed 6 million Jews began operating. Borders were closed against a desperate people.

Little is being said today about the UN's outrageous Day of Solidarity with Palestinians when a map was used from 1948 that did not show Israel. Little outrage is shown at the almost dailyoccurrencee of terrorist attacks against Israel.

Why is there no outrage against the murders of these innocent people by terrorists? Is it because these innocents happen to be Jews? Why is there no outrage that groups such Hizbollah, Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Fatah, and a long stream of terrorist groups call for the destruction of Israel and actively plan and execute terrorists attacks against innocent Israeli citizens? Is anti-Zionism now the new anti-Semitism?

In the 1930's very few people stood up and denounced what was going on in Hitler's Germany. Today, there are few governments that voice outrage against what Israel faces. Many actually condemn security measures that the Israeli government must enforce to stop the deluge of those attempting terrorist attacks. On November 29, 1947, UN Resolution 181 was passed. It called for an Israeli state and a Palestinian state. Israel accepted and the Palestinians rejected it. Every since then the Palestinians have rejected any peaceful resolutions, the last being the Oslo Accords.

The tone against Israel is getting ugly. The UN could not bring itself to condemn the latest terrorist attack in which 5 Israelis were killed. Why? Because Algeria objected to Islamic Jihad being named and telling Syria to close the group's offices. These are the neighbors Israel has. A very tiny country faced with hostility from all borders who hassuccessfullyy defended itself against invasion many times. It has also managed to have a vibrant society with an advancedtechnologyy based economy.

More people and governments must condemn the daily onslaught that Israel faces. Terrorists must be called what they are, murderers, and not given the romantic name of militant. Hizbollah and the other terrorist groups must know by all that their words and actions will not be tolerated. There is some hope. The EU and the US Congress have both said that if the terrorist group Hamas wins in the Palestinian elections, aid may be cut.


Blogger MissingLink said...

"There's no question question here who conducted the attack or where the orders came from," Bolton said. "There's nothing left to negotiate."

I like Bolton more and more.

8:28 PM  
Blogger Esther said...

Me too felis.

Seawitch, the frustration of being a Jew knows no boundries when anti-Semitism is rampant. Welcome to it. It's not fun but we have no other choice. Moral bankruptcy is all around us and it doesn't look to be going anywhere anytime soon.

8:54 PM  
Anonymous seawitch said...


I like Bolton more and more also.


Thanks. Moral bankruptcy it is and as you said will be with us for a long time.

8:58 PM  
Anonymous C-Mom said...

I hope that Bolton stays true to who I think he is and!
Isreal has every right to defend itself against these morons, and we'd better be there to back them up!

6:32 AM  
Anonymous seawitch said...


My thoughts exactly!

6:48 AM  
Blogger Rosemary said...

I'm still waiting for the money to be cut. Hamas won more seats. I hate them. I hate all terrorists. It truly is us against them, and whoever is not with us is with them. We should realize this, and stop calling them allies. They are disgusting rats.


2:56 PM  
Blogger Tran Sient said...

I'm more concerned with the Presbyterians (since I am one). It is that sort of moral equivalence garbage that allows terrorists and various nutcases from around the world to flourish. I hope PCUSA splits again.

5:42 PM  
Anonymous seawitch said...


Perhaps if members of the PCUSA would start a protest over those who met with Hizbillah, it would lead to less moral equivalence garbage.

6:35 PM  
Blogger Elmer's Brother said...

I am ashamed that a "Christian" denomination would stoop so low. This was a very good read Seawitch. Thanks, one for the roundup(when I get to it)

8:16 PM  
Anonymous seawitch said...

Hiya elmers. Hope you're feeling better. Thanks. I feel like I'm in good company when you do one of your roundups.

8:19 PM  
Blogger Elmer's Brother said...

all 5 of my readers think so

8:35 PM  
Anonymous seawitch said...


Hey, that's about how many I have!

8:43 PM  
Blogger Tran Sient said...

Actually, I'm rather hoping that they split again. PCUSA is going through a similar battle to the Episcopals.

7:30 PM  
Anonymous seawitch said...


Don't the congregants have a say as to what the board is doing? I mean don't the people make up the church. Splitting doesn't really seem to resolve the issue.

8:20 PM  

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